with regd. to the time that is spoken of I stopt opp[osite] Mr. Laws store we had been convg. with rather recoiled & wished to withdraw & sat up on a pile of wood— He said it is all true I am sorry for it I wish it had never happd.— I understood by who related some of the circumstances he cried & begged of us to forgive him— & said if he cod. be permitted to stay in the as a P[rivate] individuall he shd. be happy—— that was about the whole he sd. <​it is true​> I am sorry I wish it had never been so—— I am sorry— as we came up & Mr. S. had been talkg. abt. it— I have not mentd. it bef— I was know of the whole affair— it was on the 4th. July— <​& some days after​> a few days after I came from I was in the C[ity] Coun[cil] when sd. it was settled

X I have <​h[ear]d.​> say all the things were facts— he ackd. that had the pox & that he had Dr. him, he ackd. that & a great deal more.

in to the matters bef the Ct. I am unac[quainte]d. with I was sick at the time I have heard it talked of back & fro—

X recollected that J. S came to him with a compt. agt. & — & made afft. that it was true— I have the affts. in my house— I went to see on a Friday or Saty. last week I found him at Mr. Morrisons he was waitg. for a Steam Boat I end[eavore]d. to prevail on him to relinquish s

X he said I have no char[acter] in for I have none to lose— I tried &c but he flatly contrad[icted] me & said he had none— & this is one of the reasons why he pers[ecute]d. Mr. S.— as he had no char. he did not care what he did— he had nothing to lose that is the substance [p. 5]