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Account of Meeting and Discourse, circa 2 March 1841

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Account of Meeting, and JS, Discourse, [
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Hancock Co., IL, ca. 2 Mar. 1841]. Featured version in William P. McIntire, Notebook, p. [13]; handwriting of
William P. McIntire

29 May 1813–5 Jan. 1882. Tailor. Born in Wheatfield, Indiana Co., Pennsylvania. Son of George McIntire and Sarah Davis. Married Anna Patterson, ca. 1833, in Pennsylvania. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Erastus Snow, 23 Nov. 1836...

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; CHL. For more complete source information, see the source note for Account of Meeting and Discourse, 5 Jan. 1841, as Reported by William P. McIntire.

Historical Introduction

In late winter 1841, JS attended a meeting in
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Illinois, likely one of the weekly gatherings of the Nauvoo lyceum, and spoke on the principles of true friendship.
1

For more on the Nauvoo lyceum, see Historical Introduction to Discourse, ca. 2 Feb. 1841.


JS’s comments came in direct response to another individual’s remarks on the same subject during the meeting. The topic may have even been carried over from a meeting the week before, in which JS spoke about loyalty.
2

See Discourse, ca. 23 Feb. 1841.


William P. McIntire

29 May 1813–5 Jan. 1882. Tailor. Born in Wheatfield, Indiana Co., Pennsylvania. Son of George McIntire and Sarah Davis. Married Anna Patterson, ca. 1833, in Pennsylvania. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Erastus Snow, 23 Nov. 1836...

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wrote the account featured here in his notebook, presumably during the meeting or shortly thereafter. Although McIntire did not provide a date for the meeting, lyceum meetings appear to have been held every Tuesday in 1841, and because the text of this discourse is found in the ninth entry of McIntire’s notebook, JS likely delivered this discourse at the lyceum meeting of 2 March, the ninth Tuesday of 1841.
3

This dating assumes a weekly meeting beginning on Tuesday, 5 January 1841. For more on the dating issues in McIntire’s notebook, see Historical Introduction to Discourse, ca. 2 Feb. 1841.


Footnotes

  1. [1]

    For more on the Nauvoo lyceum, see Historical Introduction to Discourse, ca. 2 Feb. 1841.

  2. [2]

    See Discourse, ca. 23 Feb. 1841.

  3. [3]

    This dating assumes a weekly meeting beginning on Tuesday, 5 January 1841. For more on the dating issues in McIntire’s notebook, see Historical Introduction to Discourse, ca. 2 Feb. 1841.

Page [13]

Next Meeting W Soby
1

It is possible that McIntire here intended to render “Br” or “Mr” as a title for Soby. No W. Soby has been located in Nauvoo records for this time period. However, Leonard Soby was a prominent Nauvoo resident and church member who was appointed to the Nauvoo high council just over a month after this lyceum meeting. (Nauvoo High Council Minutes, 6 Apr. 1841.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Nauvoo High Council Minutes, 1839–1845. CHL. LR 3102 22.

on true friendship— he said true Friendship was such as a man Laying Down his Life for his Friend.
2

As recorded in the Bible, Jesus declared, “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” JS reportedly delivered a Sunday sermon on this same topic—the willingness of true friends to lay down their lives as did Jesus—several years earlier in the midst of the “Mormon War” in Missouri. (John 15:13; Sarah Head, Statement, ca. 22 Jan. 1845, Historian’s Office, JS History Documents, ca. 1839–1860, CHL.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Historian’s Office. Joseph Smith History Documents, 1839–1860. CHL. CR 100 396.

Joseph said there was a diferance Between the veng[e]ance that Belongeth to the Lord,
3

See Deuteronomy 32:35, 41, 43; Psalm 94:1; and Hebrews 10:30.


& a man Defending himself or friend—
4

See Revelation, 6 Aug. 1833 [D&C 98:23–31].


of the Mamon of unrighteousness
5

See Revelation, 26 Apr. 1832 [D&C 82:22]; and Luke 16:9–11.


Joseph said the majority of man king [mankind] was ◊◊ist
6

TEXT: Possibly “oprist [oppressed]”.


& true a must Lavish his Goods on all around him & out of them he will find freinds in the hour of Distress for those that have been made Ritch By the Benevalance of their Rich friend of them there will be some that will do you Good in affliction— [p. [13]]
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Account of Meeting and Discourse, circa 2 March 1841
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Footnotes

  1. [1]

    It is possible that McIntire here intended to render “Br” or “Mr” as a title for Soby. No W. Soby has been located in Nauvoo records for this time period. However, Leonard Soby was a prominent Nauvoo resident and church member who was appointed to the Nauvoo high council just over a month after this lyceum meeting. (Nauvoo High Council Minutes, 6 Apr. 1841.)

    Nauvoo High Council Minutes, 1839–1845. CHL. LR 3102 22.

  2. [2]

    As recorded in the Bible, Jesus declared, “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” JS reportedly delivered a Sunday sermon on this same topic—the willingness of true friends to lay down their lives as did Jesus—several years earlier in the midst of the “Mormon War” in Missouri. (John 15:13; Sarah Head, Statement, ca. 22 Jan. 1845, Historian’s Office, JS History Documents, ca. 1839–1860, CHL.)

    Historian’s Office. Joseph Smith History Documents, 1839–1860. CHL. CR 100 396.

  3. [3]

    See Deuteronomy 32:35, 41, 43; Psalm 94:1; and Hebrews 10:30.

  4. [4]

    See Revelation, 6 Aug. 1833 [D&C 98:23–31].

  5. [5]

    See Revelation, 26 Apr. 1832 [D&C 82:22]; and Luke 16:9–11.

  6. [6]

    TEXT: Possibly “oprist [oppressed]”.

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