where both dead for he had hold of them before he left the jail. I dont recolect saying so but somebody said so that night. Did you not state before the Grand jury that you could not be mistaken about being misstak seeing at the jail? I dont think I did. How was Grover dressed that day? I dont recollect his clothing only his cap and feathers. How meny feathers he in his cap? I dont recollect prahaps three or four. Where they all in the same place in his cap? They where all in the same place I believe. Did he ware them in the frunt or on one side or behind? In the frunt I believe. What coulour was those feathers? Black. All Black? Yes they where all black. Had any others feathers in their caps or hats? was about all that had them. What coulour was ’s feathers? Black I believe. Did he ware these feathers on to ? Yes. Had he them in when he met the <​Carthage​> gray? Yes I beleive he had. Had you turned your wagon round to go back to when Cap. Grover came up to you? Yes. Who was the first to get into your waggon after the Smiths where killed? I forget. Was it Grover? I do not know. Who was the first who came to tell you to turn and go back? I[t] was Mr. Chatendun [Chittenden] <​and some others​>. Did they get into your waggon? Yes. Was it before or after Grover came up? I dont know. Wells Glew [Gallaher] and Boarus got into my waggon. When was it you first saw Boarus and Glew? I saw them on the road going to How meny got into your Waggon? 5 or 6. Did they state who they where? No. Did you not state before the grand jury that A number of persons came from the jail and got into your waggon among them was Chatenden Wells and Grover? I dont remember. Where was it in you saw Glew? I saw him in Main street that night. When Grover got into your waggon was he conversing about the killing of the Smiths? He was talking to Wells about it. And Grover said he went into the jail? Yes Sir his said he was the first man in the jail, and Jo Smith seized him and struck him twise [twice] in the face. [p. [77]]