, and were all on horseback; on a sorrel mare. They were all on horseback when they passed me, on their return to . I think they passed me, if my eyes did not deceive me. They were in sight of each other, but a few rods apart. I do not know which was ahead, or whether they stopped and talked. Grover was then in my wagon; but I do not know whether they spoke to him or not. They passed me about a mile from . At the Railroad Grover said, “All that follow me, come on!” and said he had given bond and security for the arms, and was responsible for them. Said nothing about killing the Smiths, that I heard. Was going to see what to do about the arms. read the note from the Grey; I was 50 yards off, and did not hear what was in it. The first I saw of the Grey was reading the letter. I think Grover went up. I never stated before the Grand Jury that a Carthage Grey had met the troops, and took Henry Stephens and one side. The Grey did say the had gone to , and there was no one in that cannot be depended upon. He was talking to the men there with him; I was about 50 yards distant; recollect nothing said, and heard no reply to the Grey. I do not know who he was, but was a middling sized man, stouter than I am, probably 30 years old, and don’t think I would know him again. Never saw him before or since; do not know whether he wore a hat, cap, or plume. Think he had on a short grey coat, with skirts; but do not know what sort of pants, nor do I know how the Carthage Greys are uniformed. Do not know that he was a Grey, but was told so. He was not talking very loud when I heard him, but heard him say, “The has gone to , and there is no body in that you cannot depend upon, and now is the time to rush on.” I do not recollect who told me he was a Grey. had feathers in his cap. Grover was there. I saw the Grey start this way, but forget whether he was alone or not, nor do I know what sort of a horse [p. 23]