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Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 2, 1 March–6 May 1845

1 March 1845 • Saturday, continued Page 1 4 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 32 11 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 77 18 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 131 22 March 1845 • Saturday Page 181 25 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 231 5 April 1845 • Saturday Page 266 11 April 1845 • Friday Page 267 15 April 1845 • Tuesday Page 327 22 April 1845 • Tuesday Page 349 29 April 1845 • Tuesday Page 355 6 May 1845 • Tuesday Page 361

Source Note

See source note under Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 1, 10 March 1844–1 March 1845.

Historical Introduction

See historical introduction under Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 1, 10 March 1844–1 March 1845.

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you would have saved the charter. In regard to what he said about the priesthood, he still says it will not bow to the devil.
In regard to the resolution offered by
Er Babbit

Oct. 1812–Sept. 1856. Postmaster, editor, attorney. Born at Cheshire, Berkshire Co., Massachusetts. Son of Ira Babbitt and Nancy Crosier. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ca. 1830. Located in Amherst, Lorain Co., Ohio, July 1831....

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he was in favor of it. If we had time we could probably get a footing in the north sooner than in the south, but it is as much the will of God to go to the South as any where else if we can do it. If we can find a place to build a City surrounded by natural fortifications we can take care of ourselves in spite of them. If the brethren can go to
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and get admission there, we can sustain ourselves. As to the revelation they will suit the circumstances under which we live.
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In 1841 JS similarly taught, “God gives laws to suit the circumstances of his creatures.” Likewise, in council meetings a year earlier, Young expressed thoughts on how the council could not adopt laws to govern the people “in futurity.” Rather, Young argued, they could only “point out laws for present necessities.” At the April 1845 conference of the church, Young similarly stated “that brother Joseph in his life time did not reveal all things at once to the Church, and you may expect to see and hear many things that will be new to you.” In response to those questioning the decision to replace the wooden baptismal font in the temple with one made of stone, Young declared that “there is no man who possesses any degree of the spirit of truth who does not know that the Lord always makes his requirements of men according to their circumstances.” (Council of Fifty, “Record,” 18 Apr. 1844; Historian’s Office, Reports of Speeches, 6 Apr. 1845.)


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Historian’s Office. Reports of Speeches, 1845–1885. CHL.

Coun.
O. Spencer

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moved an amendment to
Er Babbit

Oct. 1812–Sept. 1856. Postmaster, editor, attorney. Born at Cheshire, Berkshire Co., Massachusetts. Son of Ira Babbitt and Nancy Crosier. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ca. 1830. Located in Amherst, Lorain Co., Ohio, July 1831....

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s resolution, viz. that the investigation extend to all the Western Country.
The question being called for on
Er Babbit

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s resolution a vote was taken and carried unanimously. [p. [110]]
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    In 1841 JS similarly taught, “God gives laws to suit the circumstances of his creatures.” Likewise, in council meetings a year earlier, Young expressed thoughts on how the council could not adopt laws to govern the people “in futurity.” Rather, Young argued, they could only “point out laws for present necessities.” At the April 1845 conference of the church, Young similarly stated “that brother Joseph in his life time did not reveal all things at once to the Church, and you may expect to see and hear many things that will be new to you.” In response to those questioning the decision to replace the wooden baptismal font in the temple with one made of stone, Young declared that “there is no man who possesses any degree of the spirit of truth who does not know that the Lord always makes his requirements of men according to their circumstances.” (Council of Fifty, “Record,” 18 Apr. 1844; Historian’s Office, Reports of Speeches, 6 Apr. 1845.)

    Historian’s Office. Reports of Speeches, 1845–1885. CHL.

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