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Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 2, 1 March–6 May 1845

1 March 1845 • Saturday, continued Page 1 4 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 32 11 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 77 18 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 131 22 March 1845 • Saturday Page 181 25 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 231 5 April 1845 • Saturday Page 266 11 April 1845 • Friday Page 267 15 April 1845 • Tuesday Page 327 22 April 1845 • Tuesday Page 349 29 April 1845 • Tuesday Page 355 6 May 1845 • Tuesday Page 361

Source Note

See source note under Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 1, 10 March 1844–1 March 1845.

Historical Introduction

See historical introduction under Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 1, 10 March 1844–1 March 1845.

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and scatter them. But I would just as soon they said exterminate as scatter for the dispensation we have embraced designs to gather the Saints together. If After I returned from
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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at my last visit I found considerable change of feelings among the members of the Legislature.
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Babbitt obtained a leave of absence from the state legislature on 23 December 1844. By 27 December, Babbitt returned to Nauvoo and reported on the proceedings of the legislature in a meeting of church and city leaders. William Clayton recorded that Babbitt “brought very favorable tidings respecting the prospects of our Charters being sustained” despite “tremendous prejudice in both houses against us and a determination to destroy if possible.” Following Babbitt’s report, “There was a vote taken by unanimous acclamation to sustain the whole Charter and the meeting instructed E[lde]r Babbit to contend for the whole inch by inch &, if the Legislature take any part of it away they do it at their own risk for we will never willingly consent to relinquish one jot of it.” Babbitt returned to Springfield by 3 January and, as he reported in this meeting, encountered an atmosphere much more favorable to the repeal of the Nauvoo charter. (Journal of the House of Representatives . . . of Illinois, 23 Dec. 1844 and 3 Jan. 1845, 120, 155; Clayton, Journal, 27 Dec. 1844.)


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Journal of the House of Representatives, of the Fourteenth General Assembly of the State of Illinois, at Their Regular Session, Begun and Held at Springfield, December 2, 1844. Springfield, IL: Walters and Weber, 1844.

Clayton, William. Journals, 1842–1845. CHL.

The letter which was sent to me over the signature of
O. Spencer

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I left with them during my absence. They took an extract from the latter part of the letter, and made use it of it as a threat against the
State

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During the debates over the possible repeal of the Nauvoo charter, Kirby Benedict, a representative from Macon County, introduced to the Illinois House of Representatives a copy of Orson Spencer’s letter to Almon Babbitt. Babbitt complained that it “was a private letter, not laid before the committee, nor authorized by me to be produced in this House.” Nevertheless, Babbitt “consented that he [Benedict] should read the whole document, but this he refused to do, but read just such parts as he chose, which only went to show that the person subscribing to that letter, was of opinion that the legislature had no right to repeal their city charter inasmuch as rights have accrued under its operations.” A lengthy undated excerpt of Spencer’s letter was printed in the Warsaw Signal in late January. The letter informed Babbitt that “the house of Israel have made you their watchman” in the state legislature and expressed indignation at the prospect of having the charter repealed. “What more could a bloody mob ask of a State than they will have done when they take away our charters,” Spencer asked. (Speech of Almon Babbitt, Nauvoo Neighbor, 5 Mar. 1845, [1]; “Extract of a Letter,” Warsaw [IL] Signal, 29 Jan. 1845, [3].)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Nauvoo Neighbor. Nauvoo, IL. 1843–1845.

Warsaw Signal. Warsaw, IL. 1841–1853.

Every man after this urged on the repeal of our charters. They said they had not done enough at us. When the old charter was repealed we got up a new one, which we considered as good as the other. It passed the house, but in the Senate was laid on the table. There was a kind of rumor when I left that on the last day of session the Senate would take up the [p. [13]]
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  1. [18]

    Babbitt obtained a leave of absence from the state legislature on 23 December 1844. By 27 December, Babbitt returned to Nauvoo and reported on the proceedings of the legislature in a meeting of church and city leaders. William Clayton recorded that Babbitt “brought very favorable tidings respecting the prospects of our Charters being sustained” despite “tremendous prejudice in both houses against us and a determination to destroy if possible.” Following Babbitt’s report, “There was a vote taken by unanimous acclamation to sustain the whole Charter and the meeting instructed E[lde]r Babbit to contend for the whole inch by inch &, if the Legislature take any part of it away they do it at their own risk for we will never willingly consent to relinquish one jot of it.” Babbitt returned to Springfield by 3 January and, as he reported in this meeting, encountered an atmosphere much more favorable to the repeal of the Nauvoo charter. (Journal of the House of Representatives . . . of Illinois, 23 Dec. 1844 and 3 Jan. 1845, 120, 155; Clayton, Journal, 27 Dec. 1844.)

    Journal of the House of Representatives, of the Fourteenth General Assembly of the State of Illinois, at Their Regular Session, Begun and Held at Springfield, December 2, 1844. Springfield, IL: Walters and Weber, 1844.

    Clayton, William. Journals, 1842–1845. CHL.

  2. [19]

    During the debates over the possible repeal of the Nauvoo charter, Kirby Benedict, a representative from Macon County, introduced to the Illinois House of Representatives a copy of Orson Spencer’s letter to Almon Babbitt. Babbitt complained that it “was a private letter, not laid before the committee, nor authorized by me to be produced in this House.” Nevertheless, Babbitt “consented that he [Benedict] should read the whole document, but this he refused to do, but read just such parts as he chose, which only went to show that the person subscribing to that letter, was of opinion that the legislature had no right to repeal their city charter inasmuch as rights have accrued under its operations.” A lengthy undated excerpt of Spencer’s letter was printed in the Warsaw Signal in late January. The letter informed Babbitt that “the house of Israel have made you their watchman” in the state legislature and expressed indignation at the prospect of having the charter repealed. “What more could a bloody mob ask of a State than they will have done when they take away our charters,” Spencer asked. (Speech of Almon Babbitt, Nauvoo Neighbor, 5 Mar. 1845, [1]; “Extract of a Letter,” Warsaw [IL] Signal, 29 Jan. 1845, [3].)

    Nauvoo Neighbor. Nauvoo, IL. 1843–1845.

    Warsaw Signal. Warsaw, IL. 1841–1853.

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