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Discourse, 6 April 1843–B, as Reported by James Burgess

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Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Hancock Co., IL, 6 Apr. 1843]. Featured version copied [after 12 Apr. 1843] in James Burgess, Journal and Notebook, Oct. 1841–Dec. 1848, verso, pp. [6]–[8]; handwriting of
James Burgess

25 Feb. 1818–30 May 1904. Carpenter, farmer. Born at Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England. Son of William Burgess and Martha Barlow. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 19 Oct. 1840. Ordained a priest, 19 Dec. 1840. Served mission...

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; James Burgess, Journals, 1841–1848, CHL.
James Burgess

25 Feb. 1818–30 May 1904. Carpenter, farmer. Born at Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England. Son of William Burgess and Martha Barlow. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 19 Oct. 1840. Ordained a priest, 19 Dec. 1840. Served mission...

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, “James Burgess Minister of the Gospel. Second Book of Record Containing the History of His Life October 20th 1841,” Journal and Notebook, 20 Oct. 1841–10 Dec. 1848; 292 pages; handwriting of
James Burgess

25 Feb. 1818–30 May 1904. Carpenter, farmer. Born at Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England. Son of William Burgess and Martha Barlow. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 19 Oct. 1840. Ordained a priest, 19 Dec. 1840. Served mission...

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; James Burgess, Journals, 1841–1848, CHL. Includes redactions, notations, and archival labels.
Blank book measuring 7 × 4¾ × 1 inches (18 × 12 × 3 cm) and containing 146 leaves of ledger paper bound in white leather. The endpapers at the front and back of the volume consist of marbled paper. There are three front flyleaves and two back flyleaves. The flyleaf closest to the text block on both ends is pasted to the adjacent ledger leaf; the ledger page that remained exposed became part of the text block.
Burgess

25 Feb. 1818–30 May 1904. Carpenter, farmer. Born at Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England. Son of William Burgess and Martha Barlow. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 19 Oct. 1840. Ordained a priest, 19 Dec. 1840. Served mission...

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initially titled the book “James Burgess Book | September 1rst. 1841” on the verso of the first flyleaf. On the verso of the second leaf of the text block, he added a second title: “James Burgess Minister of the Gospel. | Second Book of record containing the history | of his life October 20th | 1841”.
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Burgess’s second title alluded to his 1841 journal. (Burgess, Journal and Notebook, Jan.–Oct. 1841.)


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Burgess, James. Journal and Notebook, Oct. 1841–Dec. 1848. James Burgess, Journals, 1841–1848. CHL.

In the front of the book,
Burgess

25 Feb. 1818–30 May 1904. Carpenter, farmer. Born at Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England. Son of William Burgess and Martha Barlow. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 19 Oct. 1840. Ordained a priest, 19 Dec. 1840. Served mission...

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made miscellaneous notes on the flyleaves at unknown times. He inscribed a poem and additional notes in the first three pages of the front text block. Beginning on the fourth page of the text block, Burgess inscribed journal entries dated between 20 October 1841 and 10 December 1848 combined with intermittent retrospective summaries. He inscribed additional miscellaneous notes on the back flyleaves. On the last five pages of the text block at the end of the book—called here his “notebook”—he wrote additional notes and a poem. At an unknown time, Burgess turned the book upside down and inscribed on pages [6]–[24] accounts of discourses JS delivered between April 1843 and March 1844.
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On page [5] of the end text block, Burgess wrote an account of the 6 May 1843 parade of the Nauvoo Legion. The retrospective tone and the looseness of the letterspacing indicate that Burgess wrote it after he recorded the discourse accounts inscribed on pages [6] through [24].


Burgess initially wrote the discourse accounts in graphite. For the discourses inscribed on pages [6]–[12], Burgess subsequently retraced the characters with ink and then erased the graphite. The tightness of the letterspacing in the discourse accounts is comparable to that of the journal, suggesting that Burgess inscribed the accounts sometime in the 1840s.
The book remained in the possession of the Burgess family into the early twentieth century, as evidenced by genealogical notes made in unidentified handwriting on the flyleaves. Archival labels at the back of the book, the front cover, and the spine indicate that the book was acquired by the Church Historian’s Office (now CHL) by the mid-twentieth century.

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  1. [1]

    Burgess’s second title alluded to his 1841 journal. (Burgess, Journal and Notebook, Jan.–Oct. 1841.)

    Burgess, James. Journal and Notebook, Oct. 1841–Dec. 1848. James Burgess, Journals, 1841–1848. CHL.

  2. [2]

    On page [5] of the end text block, Burgess wrote an account of the 6 May 1843 parade of the Nauvoo Legion. The retrospective tone and the looseness of the letterspacing indicate that Burgess wrote it after he recorded the discourse accounts inscribed on pages [6] through [24].

Historical Introduction

See Historical Introduction to Minutes and Discourses, 6–7 Apr. 1843, as Reported by William Clayton.
Asterisk (*) denotes a "featured" version, which includes an introduction and annotation. *Discourse, 6 April 1843–B, as Reported by William Clayton Minutes and Discourses, 6–7 April 1843, as Reported by William Clayton *Discourse, 6 April 1843–B, as Reported by Willard Richards Journal, December 1842–June 1844; Book 2, 10 March 1843–14 July 1843 Discourse, 6 April 1843–B, as Reported by Franklin D. Richards
*Discourse, 6 April 1843–B, as Reported by James Burgess
Revised Minutes and Discourses, 23 April–circa 8 May 1843, James Sloan and John Taylor Draft Revised Minutes and Discourses, 23 April–circa 8 May 1843, First Printed Draft Revised Minutes and Discourses, 23 April-circa 8 May 1843, Second Printed Draft Revised Minutes and Discourses, 23 April-circa 8 May 1843, Willard Richards Draft *Discourse, 6 April 1843–B, as Published in Times and Seasons Revised Minutes and Discourses, 23 April–circa 8 May 1843 History Draft [1 March–31 December 1843] History Draft [1 March–31 December 1843] History, 1838–1856, volume D-1 [1 August 1842–1 July 1843] “History of Joseph Smith”

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Christ says no man knoweth the day or the hour when the Son of man cometh.
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See Matthew 24:36.


This is a sweeping argument for sectarianism against Latterdayism Did Christ speak this as a general principle throughout all generations Oh no he spake in the present tense no man that was then liveing upon the footstool of God knew the day or the hour But he did not say that there was no man throughout all generations that should not know the day or the hour No for this would be in flat contradection with other scripture for the prophet says that God will do nothing but what he will reveal unto his Servants the prophets consequently if it is not made known to the Prophets it will not come to pass; again we find Paul 1rst of Thessilonians 5th chapter expressly points out the characters who shall [p. [6]]
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Discourse, 6 April 1843–B, as Reported by James Burgess
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JSP, D12:173–174
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    See Matthew 24:36.

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