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Letter from Orson Hyde, 15 December 1835

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Orson Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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, Letter,
Kirtland Township

Located ten miles south of Lake Erie. Settled by 1811. Organized by 1818. Latter-day Saint missionaries visited township, early Nov. 1830; many residents joined Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Population in 1830 about 55 Latter-day Saints and...

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, Geauga Co., OH, to JS,
Kirtland Township

Located ten miles south of Lake Erie. Settled by 1811. Organized by 1818. Latter-day Saint missionaries visited township, early Nov. 1830; many residents joined Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Population in 1830 about 55 Latter-day Saints and...

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, Geauga Co., OH, 15 Dec. 1835. Featured version copied [ca. 17 Dec. 1835] in JS, Journal, 1835–1836, pp. 70–74; handwriting of
Warren Parrish

10 Jan. 1803–3 Jan. 1877. Clergyman, gardener. Born in New York. Son of John Parrish and Ruth Farr. Married first Elizabeth (Betsey) Patten of Westmoreland Co., New Hampshire, ca. 1822. Lived at Alexandria, Jefferson Co., New York, 1830. Purchased land at...

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; JS Collection, CHL. For more complete source information, see the source note for JS, Journal, 1835–1836.

Historical Introduction

In the latter half of 1835,
Orson Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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was caught up in several disagreements involving the church’s top leadership. As one of the
Twelve Apostles

Members of a governing body in the church, with special administrative and proselytizing responsibilities. A June 1829 revelation commanded Oliver Cowdery and David Whitmer to call twelve disciples, similar to the twelve apostles in the New Testament and ...

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, Hyde had been active in the quorum’s mission to the eastern
United States

North American constitutional republic. Constitution ratified, 17 Sept. 1787. Population in 1805 about 6,000,000; in 1830 about 13,000,000; and in 1844 about 20,000,000. Louisiana Purchase, 1803, doubled size of U.S. Consisted of seventeen states at time ...

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earlier in the year, during which he and
William E. McLellin

18 Jan. 1806–14 Mar. 1883. Schoolteacher, physician, publisher. Born at Smith Co., Tennessee. Son of Charles McLellin and Sarah (a Cherokee Indian). Married first Cynthia Ann, 30 July 1829. Wife died, by summer 1831. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of...

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were reprimanded for criticizing
Sidney Rigdon

19 Feb. 1793–14 July 1876. Tanner, farmer, minister. Born at St. Clair, Allegheny Co., Pennsylvania. Son of William Rigdon and Nancy Gallaher. Joined United Baptists, ca. 1818. Preached at Warren, Trumbull Co., Ohio, and vicinity, 1819–1821. Married Phebe...

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of the
First Presidency

The highest presiding body of the church. An 11 November 1831 revelation stated that the president of the high priesthood was to preside over the church. JS was ordained as president of the high priesthood on 25 January 1832. In March 1832, JS appointed two...

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. Church leaders suspended the two from their apostolic duties pending reconciliation.
1

Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 4 Aug. 1835; Letter to the Editor, LDS Messenger and Advocate, Oct. 1835, 2:204–207.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Latter Day Saints’ Messenger and Advocate. Kirtland, OH. Oct. 1834–Sept. 1837.

The matter was resolved at a council meeting held in
Kirtland

Located ten miles south of Lake Erie. Settled by 1811. Organized by 1818. Latter-day Saint missionaries visited township, early Nov. 1830; many residents joined Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Population in 1830 about 55 Latter-day Saints and...

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, Ohio, on 26 September 1835, when Hyde and McLellin “frankly confessed” that they were at fault and the council forgave and reinstated them.
2

Minutes, 26 Sept. 1835; JS, Journal, 26 Sept. 1835; see also Orson Hyde and William E. McLellin, Kirtland, OH, Letter to the Editor, Oct. 1835, in LDS Messenger and Advocate, Oct. 1835, 2:204–207.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Latter Day Saints’ Messenger and Advocate. Kirtland, OH. Oct. 1834–Sept. 1837.

Another conflict arose several weeks later, however, after a 3 November revelation chastised the Twelve for inequality “in the division of the moneys which came into their hands.” Hyde, McLellin, and
David W. Patten

14 Nov. 1799–25 Oct. 1838. Farmer. Born in Vermont. Son of Benoni Patten and Edith Cole. Moved to Theresa, Oneida Co., New York, as a young child. Moved to Dundee, Monroe Co., Michigan Territory, as a youth. Married Phoebe Ann Babcock, 1828, in Dundee. Affiliated...

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were singled out for an unspecified sin, and all of the Twelve were encouraged to “humble themselves.”
3

Revelation, 3 Nov. 1835. In a discourse given to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles on 12 November 1835, JS continued to admonish them to repent, humble themselves, and prepare for the endowment of power in the House of the Lord. (Discourse, 12 Nov. 1835.)


Two days later, on 5 November 1835, Hyde and McLellin visited JS and “expressed some little dissatisfaction” with the revelation. JS’s journal notes that after the two apostles examined “their own hearts,” they acknowledged the revelation “to be the word of the Lord and said they were satisfied.”
4

JS, Journal, 5 Nov. 1835.


Nevertheless, on 15 December 1835,
Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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wrote to JS with a litany of complaints. Specifically, Hyde accused
Reynolds Cahoon

30 Apr. 1790–29 Apr. 1861. Farmer, tanner, builder. Born at Cambridge, Washington Co., New York. Son of William Cahoon Jr. and Mehitable Hodges. Married Thirza Stiles, 11 Dec. 1810. Moved to northeastern Ohio, 1811. Located at Harpersfield, Ashtabula Co.,...

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, a member of the committee to build the
House of the Lord

JS revelation, dated Jan. 1831, directed Latter-day Saints to migrate to Ohio, where they would “be endowed with power from on high.” In Dec. 1832, JS revelation directed Saints to “establish . . . an house of God.” JS revelation, dated 1 June 1833, chastened...

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in
Kirtland

Located ten miles south of Lake Erie. Settled by 1811. Organized by 1818. Latter-day Saint missionaries visited township, early Nov. 1830; many residents joined Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Population in 1830 about 55 Latter-day Saints and...

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, of unfairly restricting credit to him at the
committee store

Established by temple building committee to support those working on Kirtland temple.

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while allowing
William Smith

13 Mar. 1811–13 Nov. 1893. Farmer, newspaper editor. Born at Royalton, Windsor Co., Vermont. Son of Joseph Smith Sr. and Lucy Mack. Moved to Lebanon, Grafton Co., New Hampshire, 1811; to Norwich, Windsor Co., 1813; and to Palmyra, Ontario Co., New York, 1816...

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to accumulate a large debt.
5

The committee store in Kirtland, Ohio, was run by the committee to build the House of the Lord, which consisted of Hyrum Smith, Reynolds Cahoon, and Jared Carter. Cahoon appears to have been the store manager. By June 1835, the three joined together as a mercantile firm under the name Cahoon, Carter & Co. The store appears to have been in operation by October 1835, and it likely served two functions: it supported the construction of the House of the Lord by purchasing goods on credit or from donations obtained by the Twelve and others and then making those goods available in exchange for labor or payment, and it offered its stock for sale to anyone else in the area to turn a profit. (Advertisement, Northern Times, 9 Oct. 1835, [4]; “Anniversary of the Church of Latter Day Saints,” LDS Messenger and Advocate, Apr. 1837, 3:488; JS, Journal, 7 Oct. 1835.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Northern Times. Kirtland, OH. 1835–[1836?].

Latter Day Saints’ Messenger and Advocate. Kirtland, OH. Oct. 1834–Sept. 1837.

Both Hyde and Smith were presumably expected to pay for anything they obtained from the committee store. However,
Ira Ames

22 Sept. 1804–15 Jan. 1869. Farmer, tanner, shoemaker, courier, merchant, gristmill operator. Born in Bennington Co., Vermont. Son of Ithamer Ames and Hannah Clark. Moved to Schuyler, Herkimer Co., New York, before 1809; to Shoreham, Addison Co., Vermont;...

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, the store’s clerk, later listed William Smith among the building committee members. If Smith was a part of the building committee in some fashion, it is possible that the store handled his debts differently than it did others.
6

Ames, Autobiography, [12]. Though William Smith’s relationship with the building committee and its store is not known for certain, an 1838 legal document specifies that he was not a partner of the mercantile firm Cahoon, Carter & Co., the entity responsible for running the committee store. (William W. Spencer v. Reynolds Cahoon et al., 25 Jan. 1838, in Cowdery, Docket Book, 349.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Ames, Ira. Autobiography and Journal, 1858. CHL. MS 6055.

Cowdery, Oliver. Docket Book, June–Sept. 1837. Henry E. Huntington Library, San Marino, CA.

In any case, Hyde was likely unaware of Smith’s position or any special financial arrangement he had with the store.
In his letter to JS,
Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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invoked the 3 November revelation to demonstrate that the inequality it condemned still continued among the Twelve. Drawing on the parable of the twelve sons that is found in the 3 November revelation, Hyde suggested that each of the Twelve had a right to be treated equally by the
committee store

Established by temple building committee to support those working on Kirtland temple.

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, particularly since they had all helped raise funds for the store—and for the completion of the
House of the Lord

JS revelation, dated Jan. 1831, directed Latter-day Saints to migrate to Ohio, where they would “be endowed with power from on high.” In Dec. 1832, JS revelation directed Saints to “establish . . . an house of God.” JS revelation, dated 1 June 1833, chastened...

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—during their mission to the eastern
United States

North American constitutional republic. Constitution ratified, 17 Sept. 1787. Population in 1805 about 6,000,000; in 1830 about 13,000,000; and in 1844 about 20,000,000. Louisiana Purchase, 1803, doubled size of U.S. Consisted of seventeen states at time ...

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.
7

Revelation, 3 Nov. 1835; see also Revelation, 2 Jan. 1831 [D&C 38:26]. During their recent five-month mission, Hyde and his colleagues in the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles solicited funds for the House of the Lord, for purchasing lands in Zion, and for church publications. JS considered the committee store an integral part of financing construction on the House of the Lord. (Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 4 Aug. 1835.)


Hyde further noted that while on their mission, the Twelve had been dependent upon donations to support themselves and their families but that he had given the committee “$275 in cash,” thereby reducing himself to “nothing in a pecuniary point.” He encouraged JS to uphold the principles of impartiality and equality.
The same day he wrote the letter,
Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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handed it to JS, whose journal notes that the letter “laserated” JS’s feelings but did not weaken his conviction that he “had dealt in righteousness” with Hyde “in all things and endeavoured to promote his happiness and well being.” JS felt that Hyde’s reflections were “ungrateful and founded in jealousy and that the adversary is striving with all his subtle devises and influence to destroy him by causing a division amon[g] the twelve that God has chosen to open the gospel Kingdom in all the nations.” JS’s journal contains a prayer that Hyde would be “delivered from the power of the destroyer” so that he and all the apostles would be ready for the upcoming
solemn assembly

A special church meeting or conference convened to conduct church business, administer sacred ordinances, and receive spiritual power and instruction. In November 1831, the Saints were directed by revelation to gather as a body in solemn assemblies. A December...

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in the
House of the Lord

JS revelation, dated Jan. 1831, directed Latter-day Saints to migrate to Ohio, where they would “be endowed with power from on high.” In Dec. 1832, JS revelation directed Saints to “establish . . . an house of God.” JS revelation, dated 1 June 1833, chastened...

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.
8

JS, Journal, 15 Dec. 1835.


The next day, 16 December, JS went to a meeting at the
Kirtland

Located ten miles south of Lake Erie. Settled by 1811. Organized by 1818. Latter-day Saint missionaries visited township, early Nov. 1830; many residents joined Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Population in 1830 about 55 Latter-day Saints and...

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schoolhouse

Two-story structure measuring thirty by thirty-eight feet, built during fall and winter of 1834. Located immediately west of temple lot on Whitney Street (now Maple Street) in Kirtland. School of the Elders met here from winter 1834–1835 to Jan. 1836. Ground...

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to discuss
Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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’s letter with the church’s presidency. Upon his arrival at the meeting, JS realized that he had lost Hyde’s letter, but he recounted what he could of it to those present. The council agreed to table the matter until 20 December as “they had not time to attend to it on the account of other buisness.”
9

JS, Journal, 16 Dec. 1835.


Before that occurred, Hyde visited JS on 17 December 1835 and presented him with a second copy of the letter. The two men conversed about Hyde’s objections until Hyde was appeased and agreed to attend the
Hebrew School

An educational program established in Kirtland, Ohio, in January 1836 for the study of the Hebrew language. On 4 January 1836, JS organized the school and served as its temporary instructor for three weeks. A committee composed of JS, Sidney Rigdon, Frederick...

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in Kirtland. JS forgave Hyde “with every expression of friendship that a gentleman, and a Christian could manifest” and attributed Hyde’s “ingratitude” to a lack of “correct information,” possibly referring to Hyde being uninformed of
William Smith

13 Mar. 1811–13 Nov. 1893. Farmer, newspaper editor. Born at Royalton, Windsor Co., Vermont. Son of Joseph Smith Sr. and Lucy Mack. Moved to Lebanon, Grafton Co., New Hampshire, 1811; to Norwich, Windsor Co., 1813; and to Palmyra, Ontario Co., New York, 1816...

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’s association with the building committee. JS also acknowledged that
Reynolds Cahoon

30 Apr. 1790–29 Apr. 1861. Farmer, tanner, builder. Born at Cambridge, Washington Co., New York. Son of William Cahoon Jr. and Mehitable Hodges. Married Thirza Stiles, 11 Dec. 1810. Moved to northeastern Ohio, 1811. Located at Harpersfield, Ashtabula Co.,...

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had mistreated Hyde. With the matter “settled amicably,” JS and Hyde parted with mutual goodwill.
10

JS, Journal, 17 Dec. 1835.


JS later spoke with Cahoon about extending credit to the Twelve Apostles on equal terms.
11

JS History, vol. B-1, addenda, 2.


The version of the letter presented here is the second copy of
Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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’s letter, as copied into JS’s journal by
Warren Parrish

10 Jan. 1803–3 Jan. 1877. Clergyman, gardener. Born in New York. Son of John Parrish and Ruth Farr. Married first Elizabeth (Betsey) Patten of Westmoreland Co., New Hampshire, ca. 1822. Lived at Alexandria, Jefferson Co., New York, 1830. Purchased land at...

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, likely upon receipt on 17 December.

Footnotes

  1. [1]

    Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 4 Aug. 1835; Letter to the Editor, LDS Messenger and Advocate, Oct. 1835, 2:204–207.

    Latter Day Saints’ Messenger and Advocate. Kirtland, OH. Oct. 1834–Sept. 1837.

  2. [2]

    Minutes, 26 Sept. 1835; JS, Journal, 26 Sept. 1835; see also Orson Hyde and William E. McLellin, Kirtland, OH, Letter to the Editor, Oct. 1835, in LDS Messenger and Advocate, Oct. 1835, 2:204–207.

    Latter Day Saints’ Messenger and Advocate. Kirtland, OH. Oct. 1834–Sept. 1837.

  3. [3]

    Revelation, 3 Nov. 1835. In a discourse given to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles on 12 November 1835, JS continued to admonish them to repent, humble themselves, and prepare for the endowment of power in the House of the Lord. (Discourse, 12 Nov. 1835.)

  4. [4]

    JS, Journal, 5 Nov. 1835.

  5. [5]

    The committee store in Kirtland, Ohio, was run by the committee to build the House of the Lord, which consisted of Hyrum Smith, Reynolds Cahoon, and Jared Carter. Cahoon appears to have been the store manager. By June 1835, the three joined together as a mercantile firm under the name Cahoon, Carter & Co. The store appears to have been in operation by October 1835, and it likely served two functions: it supported the construction of the House of the Lord by purchasing goods on credit or from donations obtained by the Twelve and others and then making those goods available in exchange for labor or payment, and it offered its stock for sale to anyone else in the area to turn a profit. (Advertisement, Northern Times, 9 Oct. 1835, [4]; “Anniversary of the Church of Latter Day Saints,” LDS Messenger and Advocate, Apr. 1837, 3:488; JS, Journal, 7 Oct. 1835.)

    Northern Times. Kirtland, OH. 1835–[1836?].

    Latter Day Saints’ Messenger and Advocate. Kirtland, OH. Oct. 1834–Sept. 1837.

  6. [6]

    Ames, Autobiography, [12]. Though William Smith’s relationship with the building committee and its store is not known for certain, an 1838 legal document specifies that he was not a partner of the mercantile firm Cahoon, Carter & Co., the entity responsible for running the committee store. (William W. Spencer v. Reynolds Cahoon et al., 25 Jan. 1838, in Cowdery, Docket Book, 349.)

    Ames, Ira. Autobiography and Journal, 1858. CHL. MS 6055.

    Cowdery, Oliver. Docket Book, June–Sept. 1837. Henry E. Huntington Library, San Marino, CA.

  7. [7]

    Revelation, 3 Nov. 1835; see also Revelation, 2 Jan. 1831 [D&C 38:26]. During their recent five-month mission, Hyde and his colleagues in the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles solicited funds for the House of the Lord, for purchasing lands in Zion, and for church publications. JS considered the committee store an integral part of financing construction on the House of the Lord. (Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 4 Aug. 1835.)

  8. [8]

    JS, Journal, 15 Dec. 1835.

  9. [9]

    JS, Journal, 16 Dec. 1835.

  10. [10]

    JS, Journal, 17 Dec. 1835.

  11. [11]

    JS History, vol. B-1, addenda, 2.

Asterisk (*) denotes a "featured" version, which includes an introduction and annotation. *Letter from Orson Hyde, 15 December 1835 Journal, 1835–1836 History, 1834–1836 History, 1838–1856, volume B-1 [1 September 1834–2 November 1838] “History of Joseph Smith”

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he would trust me until January, but must then have his pay as the payments for the goods become due at that time. I told him that I know not from whence the money would come and I could not promise it so soon.
But in a few weeks after I unexpectedly obtained the money to buy a cloak and applyed immediately to
Elder C

30 Apr. 1790–29 Apr. 1861. Farmer, tanner, builder. Born at Cambridge, Washington Co., New York. Son of William Cahoon Jr. and Mehitable Hodges. Married Thirza Stiles, 11 Dec. 1810. Moved to northeastern Ohio, 1811. Located at Harpersfield, Ashtabula Co.,...

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for one and told him that I had the cash to pay for it, but he said that the materials for cloaks were all sold and that he could not accommodately me, and I will here venture a guess that he has not realized the cash for one cloak pattern.
A few weeks after this I called on
Elder Cahoon

30 Apr. 1790–29 Apr. 1861. Farmer, tanner, builder. Born at Cambridge, Washington Co., New York. Son of William Cahoon Jr. and Mehitable Hodges. Married Thirza Stiles, 11 Dec. 1810. Moved to northeastern Ohio, 1811. Located at Harpersfield, Ashtabula Co.,...

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again and told him that I wanted cloth for some shirts to the amount of 4 or 5 Dollars I told him that I would pay him in the spring and sooner if I could.
He told me let me have it not long after, my school was established and some of the hands who laboured on the
house

JS revelation, dated Jan. 1831, directed Latter-day Saints to migrate to Ohio, where they would “be endowed with power from on high.” In Dec. 1832, JS revelation directed Saints to “establish . . . an house of God.” JS revelation, dated 1 June 1833, chastened...

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attended and wished to pay me at the
Committee Store

Established by temple building committee to support those working on Kirtland temple.

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for their tuition.— I called at the
Store

Established by temple building committee to support those working on Kirtland temple.

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to see if any nego[ti]ation could be made and they take me off where I owed them, but no such negotiation could be made.
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It appears that construction workers on the House of the Lord received credit from the committee store for the time they labored on the building. Hyde’s students, some of whom also served as construction workers on the House of the Lord, apparently proposed an arrangement wherein they would pay Hyde for the education through their accounts at the committee store.


These with some other circumstances of like character called forth the following. reflections.
In the first place I gave the committee $275 in cash besides some more and during the last season have traveled thro the Middle and Eastern states to suport and uphold the
store

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and in so doing have reduced myself to nothing in a pecuniary point.
2

On fund-raising efforts by Hyde and the Twelve in summer 1835, see Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 4 Aug. 1835; and Revelation, 3 Nov. 1835.


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  1. [1]

    It appears that construction workers on the House of the Lord received credit from the committee store for the time they labored on the building. Hyde’s students, some of whom also served as construction workers on the House of the Lord, apparently proposed an arrangement wherein they would pay Hyde for the education through their accounts at the committee store.

  2. [2]

    On fund-raising efforts by Hyde and the Twelve in summer 1835, see Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 4 Aug. 1835; and Revelation, 3 Nov. 1835.

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