As to personally I have thought him to be a good meaning man, but in connexion with others under the order of the danite society, I thought I had as much to fear from others <​him​> as <​from​> others— As to the constitution testified of by , I never heard of it until he disclosed it when he was taken prisoner— and I not did a not attend the first meetings in which the danite band was formed, I see not did not see , in the last expedition to , have arms upon his person— but he constituted one of the counsellors of Prest Joseph Smith Jr &c it was not usual for any of the President Presidency to compose composed of the Prest Smith & his counsellors to take arms and go into the ranks— When I arrived at I staid the first night at s house— and informed that was comeing out with the militia. answered that he did not wish to come out & sent an express to him not to come— he remarked that they could settle the difficulties themselves, I heard and further this saith not— [p. [54]]