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Appendix 1: Fifth Theological Lecture on Faith, circa January–May 1835, as Published in Latter Day Saints’ Messenger and Advocate

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Fifth Theological Lecture on Faith, [
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, Geauga Co., OH], ca. Jan.–May 1835. Version published in “Lecture Fifth,” Latter Day Saints’ Messenger and Advocate, May 1835, 1:122–124. The copy used for transcription is held at CHL.

Historical Introduction

See Historical Introduction to Appendix 1: First Theological Lecture on Faith, ca. Jan.–May 1835.
Asterisk (*) denotes a "featured" version, which includes an introduction and annotation. Doctrine and Covenants, 1835 Appendix 1: Fifth Theological Lecture on Faith, circa January–May 1835, as Published in Latter Day Saints’ Messenger and Advocate Doctrine and Covenants, 1844

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A. First, he is a personage of tabernacle.
Q. How do you prove it?
A. John 14: 9, 10, 11, Jesus says unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet have you not known me, Philip? He that has seen me has seen the Father; and how do you say then, Show us the Father? Do you not believe, that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwells in me, he does the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me.
Secondly, and being a personage of tabernacle, was made or fashioned like unto man, or being in the form and likeness of man.
Philip, 2. Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus; who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God; but made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man, and, being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Heb. 2: 14, 16. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels: but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
Thirdly, he is also in the likeness of the personage of the Father.
Heb. 1: 1, 2, 3. God, who at sundry times, and in divers manners, spake in time past to the fathers, by the prophets, has in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who, being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person. Again, Philip, 2: 5, 6. Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus; who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.
Q. Was it by the Father and the Son that all things were created and made, that were created and made?
A. It was. Col. 1: 15, 16, 17. Who is the image of the invisible God, the first born of every creature; for by him were all things created that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones or dominions, principalities or powers; all things were created by him and for him; and he is before all things, and by him all things consist. Gen. 1: 1. In the beginning God creatod the heavens and the earth. Heb. 1: 2. [God] Has in these last days sponen unto us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.
Q. Does he possess the fulness of the Father?
A. He does. Col. 1: 19. 2: 9. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell. For in him dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Eph. 1: 23. Which is his -[Christ’s]- body, the fulness of him that fills all in all.
Q. Why was he called the Son?
A. Because of the flesh. Luke 1: 33. That holy thing which shall be born of thee, shall be called the Son of God. Math. 3: 16, 17. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straitway out of the water: and lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he -[John]- saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting upon him: and lo, a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Q. Was he ordained of the Father, from before the foundation of the world, to be a propitiation for the sins of all those who should believe on his name?
A. He was. 1 Peter, 1: 18, 19, 20. For as much as you know that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation, received by tradition from your fathers; but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifested in these last times for you. Rev. 13: 8. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, -[the beast]- whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 1 Cor. 2: 7. But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden mystery, which God ordained before the world unto our glory.
Q. Do the Father and the Son possess the same mind?
They do. John 5: 30. I -[Christ]- can of my own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father who sent me. John 6: 38. For I -[Christ]- came down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him that sent me. John 10: 30. I -[Christ]- and my Father are one.
Q. What is this mind?
A. The Holy Spirit. John 15: 26. But when the comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceeds from the Father, he shall testify of me. -[Christ.]- Gal. 4: 6. And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts.
Q. Do the Father, Son and Holy Spirit constitute the Godhead?
A. They do.
Let the student commit this paragraph to memory. [§5. ¶2.]
Q. Does the believer in Christ Jesus, through the gift of the Spirit, become one with the Father and the Son, as the Father and the Son are one?
A. They do. John 17: 20, 21. Neither pray I for these (the apostles) alone; but for them also who shall believe on me through their word; that they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us, that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
Q. Does the foregoing account of the Godhead lay a sure foundation for the exercise of faith in him unto life and salvation?
A. It does.
Q. How do you prove it?
A. By the third paragraph of this lecture. Let the student commit this also. [p. 124]
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