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Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 2, 1 March–6 May 1845

1 March 1845 • Saturday, continued Page 1 4 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 32 11 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 77 18 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 131 22 March 1845 • Saturday Page 181 25 March 1845 • Tuesday Page 231 5 April 1845 • Saturday Page 266 11 April 1845 • Friday Page 267 15 April 1845 • Tuesday Page 327 22 April 1845 • Tuesday Page 349 29 April 1845 • Tuesday Page 355 6 May 1845 • Tuesday Page 361

Source Note

See source note under Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 1, 10 March 1844–1 March 1845.

Historical Introduction

See historical introduction under Council of Fifty, Minutes, March 1844–January 1846; Volume 1, 10 March 1844–1 March 1845.

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that stands in his place is our lawgiver.
76

In sustaining Brigham Young when the Council of Fifty was reorganized on 4 February 1845, Orson Spencer made similar remarks: “When Joseph was here he was for carrying out his (Josephs) measures, he now wants prest. Young as our head to carry out his own measures, and he believes they will be right whether they differ from Josephs measures or not. Different circumstances require different measures.” (Council of Fifty, “Record,” 4 Feb. 1845.)


He feels diffident to step forward and take his place for fear some will take exceptions, but there ought to be no exceptions taken.
I propose that we now take up the Western Mission, when it shall be done, whether we shall go into it speedily, or shall we hold up, but my feelings are to have it go ahead as speedily as possible. I never wish to take a step unless I am moved upon by the Holy Ghost, and every one in this council feels so to. We ought to feel as clay in the hands of the potter,
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See New Testament Revision 2, part 2, p. 150 [Joseph Smith Translation, Revelation 2:27]; and Jeremiah 18:6. Kimball was a potter by trade and frequently invoked this metaphor. (Kimball, Heber C. Kimball, 10–11; Whitney, Life of Heber C. Kimball, 309; Historian’s Office, JS History, Draft Notes, 8 Mar. 1843.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Kimball, Stanley B. Heber C. Kimball: Mormon Patriarch and Pioneer. Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1981.

Whitney, Orson F. Life of Heber C. Kimball, an Apostle: The Father and Founder of the British Mission. Salt Lake City: Juvenile Instructor Office, 1888.

but what can a potter do when half of his clay will yeild and half not yeild? He cant do any thing.
Councillor Page

25 Feb. 1799–14 Oct. 1867. Born at Trenton, Oneida Co., New York. Son of Ebenezer Page and Rachel Hill. Married first Betsey Thompson, 1831, in Huron Co., Ohio. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Emer Harris, 18 Aug. 1833, at Brownhelm...

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asked a question pertaining to the
damn

Planned partial dam on Mississippi River intended to power mills and provide safer harbor for Nauvoo. John C. Bennett proposed constructing dam on river at northwestern end of city, by Feb. 1841. JS suggested petitioning Congress for funds to erect dam or...

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, which was answered. He said he expected to have to go away to attend to some business concerning the
damn

Planned partial dam on Mississippi River intended to power mills and provide safer harbor for Nauvoo. John C. Bennett proposed constructing dam on river at northwestern end of city, by Feb. 1841. JS suggested petitioning Congress for funds to erect dam or...

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.
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Page was the president of the Nauvoo Water Power Company, which had been created to build a dam “in the Mississippi river at the City of Nauvoo; for the propelling of all kinds of manufacturing machinery.” (John E. Page, “Attention the Whole Kingdom of Saints,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 5 Mar. 1845, [3].)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Nauvoo Neighbor. Nauvoo, IL. 1843–1845.

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Footnotes

  1. [76]

    In sustaining Brigham Young when the Council of Fifty was reorganized on 4 February 1845, Orson Spencer made similar remarks: “When Joseph was here he was for carrying out his (Josephs) measures, he now wants prest. Young as our head to carry out his own measures, and he believes they will be right whether they differ from Josephs measures or not. Different circumstances require different measures.” (Council of Fifty, “Record,” 4 Feb. 1845.)

  2. [77]

    See New Testament Revision 2, part 2, p. 150 [Joseph Smith Translation, Revelation 2:27]; and Jeremiah 18:6. Kimball was a potter by trade and frequently invoked this metaphor. (Kimball, Heber C. Kimball, 10–11; Whitney, Life of Heber C. Kimball, 309; Historian’s Office, JS History, Draft Notes, 8 Mar. 1843.)

    Kimball, Stanley B. Heber C. Kimball: Mormon Patriarch and Pioneer. Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1981.

    Whitney, Orson F. Life of Heber C. Kimball, an Apostle: The Father and Founder of the British Mission. Salt Lake City: Juvenile Instructor Office, 1888.

  3. [78]

    Page was the president of the Nauvoo Water Power Company, which had been created to build a dam “in the Mississippi river at the City of Nauvoo; for the propelling of all kinds of manufacturing machinery.” (John E. Page, “Attention the Whole Kingdom of Saints,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 5 Mar. 1845, [3].)

    Nauvoo Neighbor. Nauvoo, IL. 1843–1845.

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