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Letter from Unidentified Author, 29 August 1842, Extract

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Unidentified author, Letter, [
Manchester

City in northwest England, located on River Irwell. Noted for manufacture of cotton, linen, and silk goods. Population in 1831 about 187,000. Some early church publications for British Saints, including a hymnal and Latter-day Saints’ Millennial Star, published...

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, Lancashire, England], to [JS,
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Hancock Co., IL, 29 Aug. 1842]. Extract published in 1883 in Josiah Quincy, Figures of the Past from the Leaves of Old Journals, Boston: Roberts Brothers, 1883, pp. 394–395. Transcription made from digital images obtained from Harvard University by Google Books in 2008.

Historical Introduction

On 29 August 1842, an unidentified Latter-day Saint in
Manchester

City in northwest England, located on River Irwell. Noted for manufacture of cotton, linen, and silk goods. Population in 1831 about 187,000. Some early church publications for British Saints, including a hymnal and Latter-day Saints’ Millennial Star, published...

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, England, wrote a letter to JS in
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Illinois, about his conversion and desire to meet the prophet. Little is known about this letter or its author aside from an excerpt later published by writer and
Massachusetts

One of original thirteen colonies that formed U.S. Capital city, Boston. Colonized by English religious dissenters, 1620s. Population in 1830 about 610,000. Population in 1840 about 738,000. Joseph Smith Sr. born in Massachusetts. Samuel Smith and Orson Hyde...

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socialite
Josiah Quincy

17 Jan. 1802–2 Nov. 1882. Lawyer, politician, businessman. Born in Boston. Son of Josiah Quincy and Eliza Susan Morton. Unitarian. Graduated from Phillips Academy in Andover, Essex Co., Massachusetts, 1817. Graduated from Harvard University, 1821. Admitted...

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. The letter, as described by Quincy, comprised “four pages of gilt-edged paper.”
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Quincy, Figures of the Past, 394–395.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Quincy, Josiah. Figures of the Past: From the Leaves of Old Journals. Boston: Roberts Brothers, 1883.

It had been given to missionary
John Snider

11 Feb. 1800–19 Dec. 1875. Farmer, mason, stonecutter. Born in New Brunswick, Canada. Son of Martin Snyder and Sarah Armstrong. Married Mary Heron, 28 Feb. 1822. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1836, at Toronto. Stockholder in Kirtland...

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to give to JS along with presents of a hat, satin necktie, and brooch.
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Quincy, Figures of the Past, 394. These presents likely represented donations made for the Nauvoo temple. In January 1841, church leaders had requested the Saints abroad to donate to the temple construction effort, and the Book of the Law of the Lord includes long lists of donations from British Latter-day Saints brought to Nauvoo by missionaries. Snider returned from his mission in January 1843, but a notation in the Book of the Law of the Lord indicates that the donations he collected were not recorded until June 1843. None of his donations recorded there match the three items described here. (Proclamation, 15 Jan. 1841; Revelation, 19 Jan. 1841 [D&C 124:26–27]; Book of the Law of the Lord, 301, 319–325.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Quincy, Josiah. Figures of the Past: From the Leaves of Old Journals. Boston: Roberts Brothers, 1883.

Although
Quincy

17 Jan. 1802–2 Nov. 1882. Lawyer, politician, businessman. Born in Boston. Son of Josiah Quincy and Eliza Susan Morton. Unitarian. Graduated from Phillips Academy in Andover, Essex Co., Massachusetts, 1817. Graduated from Harvard University, 1821. Admitted...

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suppressed the writer’s name, leaving his identity unknown, his story is typical of those of many other British Latter-day Saints in the late 1830s and early 1840s.
Apostles

Members of a governing body in the church, with special administrative and proselytizing responsibilities. A June 1829 revelation commanded Oliver Cowdery and David Whitmer to call twelve disciples, similar to the twelve apostles in the New Testament and ...

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Heber C. Kimball

14 June 1801–22 June 1868. Blacksmith, potter. Born at Sheldon, Franklin Co., Vermont. Son of Solomon Farnham Kimball and Anna Spaulding. Married Vilate Murray, 22 Nov. 1822, at Mendon, Monroe Co., New York. Member of Baptist church at Mendon, 1831. Baptized...

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and
Orson Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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led the church’s first mission to
England

Island nation consisting of southern portion of Great Britain and surrounding smaller islands. Bounded on north by Scotland and on west by Wales. Became province of Roman Empire, first century. Ruled by Romans, through 447. Ruled by Picts, Scots, and Saxons...

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in 1837 accompanied by several men, including British and Canadian immigrants such as
Joseph Fielding

26 Mar. 1797–19 Dec. 1863. Farmer. Born at Honeydon, Bedfordshire, England. Son of John Fielding and Rachel Ibbotson. Immigrated to Upper Canada, 1832. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Parley P. Pratt, 21 May 1836, in Black Creek...

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and
Snider

11 Feb. 1800–19 Dec. 1875. Farmer, mason, stonecutter. Born in New Brunswick, Canada. Son of Martin Snyder and Sarah Armstrong. Married Mary Heron, 28 Feb. 1822. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1836, at Toronto. Stockholder in Kirtland...

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. This first mission resulted in around fifteen hundred
baptisms

An ordinance in which an individual is immersed in water for the remission of sins. The Book of Mormon explained that those with necessary authority were to baptize individuals who had repented of their sins. Baptized individuals also received the gift of...

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in
Preston

Town located on River Ribble, approximately 216 miles northwest of London. Population in 1831 about 33,000. Population in 1841 about 35,000. First Latter-day Saint mission to England established, 1837–1838, with most efforts concentrated in town and surrounding...

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, England, and the surrounding area.
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Historical Introduction to Recommendation for Heber C. Kimball, between 2 and 13 June 1837; Heber C. Kimball, Preston, England, to Vilate Murray Kimball, Kirtland, OH, 2–6 Sept. 1837, in Elders’ Journal, Oct. 1837, 4–7; Orson Hyde, Preston, England, to Marinda Nancy Johnson Hyde, Kirtland, OH, 14 Sept. 1837, in Elders’ Journal, Nov. 1837, 19–22; Joseph Fielding, Preston, England, to Mary Fielding, Kirtland, OH, 2 Oct. 1837, Mary Fielding Smith, Collection, CHL; Allen et al., Men with a Mission, 53.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Smith, Mary Fielding. Collection, ca. 1832–1848. CHL. MS 2779.

Allen, James B., Ronald K. Esplin, and David J. Whittaker. Men with a Mission, 1837–1841: The Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in the British Isles. Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1992.

A subsequent mission led by a majority of the Twelve Apostles beginning in 1840 was even more successful; by the time the missionaries were preparing to leave in April 1841, the church had reached a total membership of almost six thousand in Great Britain.
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Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 15 Dec. 1840; Allen et al., Men with a Mission, 106, 300-302.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Allen, James B., Ronald K. Esplin, and David J. Whittaker. Men with a Mission, 1837–1841: The Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in the British Isles. Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1992.

Many of these converts decided to come to the
United States

North American constitutional republic. Constitution ratified, 17 Sept. 1787. Population in 1805 about 6,000,000; in 1830 about 13,000,000; and in 1844 about 20,000,000. Louisiana Purchase, 1803, doubled size of U.S. Consisted of seventeen states at time ...

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to join the Saints. By 1842, there was a sizable population of British immigrants arriving in
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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.
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For example, the 16 May 1842 issue of the church’s newspaper, the Times and Seasons, included a notice that a hundred and fifty British converts had arrived in Nauvoo a few days earlier and that “a ship load came some time ago, and another is expected soon.” (Notice, Times and Seasons, 16 May 1842, 3:790.)


According to Quincy, the writer of the 29 August letter—who appears to have joined the church in 1840 and left a paid position in the Church of England to do so—wished to join them, but opposition from his mother-in-law prevented his emigration.
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Quincy, Figures of the Past, 394–395.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Quincy, Josiah. Figures of the Past: From the Leaves of Old Journals. Boston: Roberts Brothers, 1883.

In May 1844,
Quincy

17 Jan. 1802–2 Nov. 1882. Lawyer, politician, businessman. Born in Boston. Son of Josiah Quincy and Eliza Susan Morton. Unitarian. Graduated from Phillips Academy in Andover, Essex Co., Massachusetts, 1817. Graduated from Harvard University, 1821. Admitted...

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visited JS in
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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. During the visit Quincy apparently found several letters in a “basket of wastepaper” in the
Nauvoo House

Located in lower portion of Nauvoo (the flats) along bank of Mississippi River. JS revelation, dated 19 Jan. 1841, instructed Saints to build boardinghouse for travelers and immigrants. Construction of planned three-story building to be funded by fifty-dollar...

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and asked if he could keep three of them as souvenirs. A chapter on JS in his 1883 memoir includes excerpts and summaries of those letters. Quincy’s excerpt from the 29 August letter, which he considered the “most interesting,” is featured here.
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Quincy, Figures of the Past, 377, 393–395.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Quincy, Josiah. Figures of the Past: From the Leaves of Old Journals. Boston: Roberts Brothers, 1883.

Footnotes

  1. [1]

    Quincy, Figures of the Past, 394–395.

    Quincy, Josiah. Figures of the Past: From the Leaves of Old Journals. Boston: Roberts Brothers, 1883.

  2. [2]

    Quincy, Figures of the Past, 394. These presents likely represented donations made for the Nauvoo temple. In January 1841, church leaders had requested the Saints abroad to donate to the temple construction effort, and the Book of the Law of the Lord includes long lists of donations from British Latter-day Saints brought to Nauvoo by missionaries. Snider returned from his mission in January 1843, but a notation in the Book of the Law of the Lord indicates that the donations he collected were not recorded until June 1843. None of his donations recorded there match the three items described here. (Proclamation, 15 Jan. 1841; Revelation, 19 Jan. 1841 [D&C 124:26–27]; Book of the Law of the Lord, 301, 319–325.)

    Quincy, Josiah. Figures of the Past: From the Leaves of Old Journals. Boston: Roberts Brothers, 1883.

  3. [3]

    Historical Introduction to Recommendation for Heber C. Kimball, between 2 and 13 June 1837; Heber C. Kimball, Preston, England, to Vilate Murray Kimball, Kirtland, OH, 2–6 Sept. 1837, in Elders’ Journal, Oct. 1837, 4–7; Orson Hyde, Preston, England, to Marinda Nancy Johnson Hyde, Kirtland, OH, 14 Sept. 1837, in Elders’ Journal, Nov. 1837, 19–22; Joseph Fielding, Preston, England, to Mary Fielding, Kirtland, OH, 2 Oct. 1837, Mary Fielding Smith, Collection, CHL; Allen et al., Men with a Mission, 53.

    Smith, Mary Fielding. Collection, ca. 1832–1848. CHL. MS 2779.

    Allen, James B., Ronald K. Esplin, and David J. Whittaker. Men with a Mission, 1837–1841: The Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in the British Isles. Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1992.

  4. [4]

    Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 15 Dec. 1840; Allen et al., Men with a Mission, 106, 300-302.

    Allen, James B., Ronald K. Esplin, and David J. Whittaker. Men with a Mission, 1837–1841: The Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in the British Isles. Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1992.

  5. [5]

    For example, the 16 May 1842 issue of the church’s newspaper, the Times and Seasons, included a notice that a hundred and fifty British converts had arrived in Nauvoo a few days earlier and that “a ship load came some time ago, and another is expected soon.” (Notice, Times and Seasons, 16 May 1842, 3:790.)

  6. [6]

    Quincy, Figures of the Past, 394–395.

    Quincy, Josiah. Figures of the Past: From the Leaves of Old Journals. Boston: Roberts Brothers, 1883.

  7. [7]

    Quincy, Figures of the Past, 377, 393–395.

    Quincy, Josiah. Figures of the Past: From the Leaves of Old Journals. Boston: Roberts Brothers, 1883.

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leaving my mother a widow with seven children. . . . I remember her teachings well, which were these: Fear God, be strictly honest, and speak the truth. I remember, when about three or four years old, being with her in a shop. I saw a pin on the floor. I picked it up and gave it to her. She told me to give it to the shopman, with a sharp reprimand, showing me that it was a sin to take even a pin. The remembrance of this slight circumstance has followed me from that time to the present. -[An account of the writer’s conversion to Mormonism follows, after which he goes on thus.]- Previously to joining this
Church

The Book of Mormon related that when Christ set up his church in the Americas, “they which were baptized in the name of Jesus, were called the church of Christ.” The first name used to denote the church JS organized on 6 April 1830 was “the Church of Christ...

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, I was a singer in the Church of England, had eight pounds a year, and a good situation in the week-time at a retail hat shop. My wife’s brother told me I was robbing my children of their bread in giving up the eight pounds. I told him I was not dependent on that for bread, and said unto him the Lord could make up the difference. He laughed at me; but, beloved brother, in about one month from the time I left the Church of England my master raised my wages four shillings a week (which was about one shilling per week more than that just sacrificed), and this has continued on ever since, which is now two years this month, for which I thank the Lord, together with many other mercies. [p. 395]
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