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Discourse, 15 October 1843

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JS, Discourse, [
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Hancock Co., IL, 15 Oct. 1843]. Featured version copied [ca. 15 Oct. 1843] in JS, Journal, bk. 3, 1842–1844, pp. [128]–[135]; handwriting of
Willard Richards

24 June 1804–11 Mar. 1854. Teacher, lecturer, doctor, clerk, printer, editor, postmaster. Born at Hopkinton, Middlesex Co., Massachusetts. Son of Joseph Richards and Rhoda Howe. Moved to Richmond, Berkshire Co., Massachusetts, 1813; to Chatham, Columbia Co...

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; JS Collection, CHL. For more complete source information, see the source note for JS, Journal, 1842–1844.

Historical Introduction

On 15 October 1843, in
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Illinois, JS delivered a Sabbath-day discourse focused primarily on the economy of Nauvoo and the temporal welfare of its citizens.
1

Willard Richards succinctly summarized the topic of JS’s discourse as “economy of Nauvoo.” (Richards, Journal, 15 Oct. 1843.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Richards, Franklin D. Journals, 1844–1899. Richards Family Collection, 1837–1961. CHL. MS 1215, boxes 1–5.

Because of Nauvoo’s proximity to the
Mississippi River

Principal U.S. river running southward from Itasca Lake, Minnesota, to Gulf of Mexico. Covered 3,160-mile course, 1839 (now about 2,350 miles). Drains about 1,100,000 square miles. Steamboat travel on Mississippi very important in 1830s and 1840s for shipping...

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’s Des Moines rapids, some
Latter-day Saints

The Book of Mormon related that when Christ set up his church in the Americas, “they which were baptized in the name of Jesus, were called the church of Christ.” The first name used to denote the church JS organized on 6 April 1830 was “the Church of Christ...

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—including JS—believed the city had tremendous industrial potential.
2

Alanson Ripley, “Nauvoo,” Times and Seasons, June 1840, 1:122.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Times and Seasons. Commerce/Nauvoo, IL. Nov. 1839–Feb. 1846.

In a December 1840 letter to the
Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

Members of a governing body in the church, with special administrative and proselytizing responsibilities. A June 1829 revelation commanded Oliver Cowdery and David Whitmer to call twelve disciples, similar to the twelve apostles in the New Testament and ...

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, JS had instructed missionaries in
England

Island nation consisting of southern portion of Great Britain and surrounding smaller islands. Bounded on north by Scotland and on west by Wales. Became province of Roman Empire, first century. Ruled by Romans, through 447. Ruled by Picts, Scots, and Saxons...

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to encourage converts “accustomed to making machinery and those who can command a capital” to immigrate to Nauvoo to help build an industrial infrastructure for other British converts who were predominantly impoverished factory workers. “This place has advantages for a manufacturing and commercial purposes which but very few can boast of,” he continued, “and by establishing Cotton Factories, Founderies, Potteries &c &c would be the means of bringing in wealth and raising it to a very important elevation.”
3

Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 15 Dec. 1840.


A January 1841 church proclamation encouraged British converts to relocate to Nauvoo and assured them that “the waters of the Mississippi can be successfully used for manufactoring purposes, to an almost unlimited extent.”
4

Proclamation, 15 Jan. 1841.


In February 1841, the
Illinois

Became part of Northwest Territory of U.S., 1787. Admitted as state, 1818. Population in 1840 about 480,000. Population in 1845 about 660,000. Plentiful, inexpensive land attracted settlers from northern and southern states. Following expulsion from Missouri...

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General Assembly passed an act establishing the
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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Agricultural and Manufacturing Association in order to promote “agriculture and husbandry in all its branches, and for the manufacture of flour, lumber and such other useful articles as are necessary for the ordinary purposes of life.”
5

An Act to Incorporate the Nauvoo Agricultural and Manufacturing Association, in the County of Hancock [27 Feb. 1841], Laws of the State of Illinois [1840–1841], p. 139, sec. 2.


Comprehensive Works Cited

General Laws of the State of Illinois, Passed by the Eighteenth General Assembly, Convened January 3, 1853. Springfield: Lanphier and Walker, 1853.

Although the association launched an effort to build a pottery, some residents grew impatient with the city’s lack of industrial jobs.
6

Sidney Rigdon, “To the Editor of the Neighbor,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 21 June 1843, [3].


Comprehensive Works Cited

Nauvoo Neighbor. Nauvoo, IL. 1843–1845.

A May 1843 Nauvoo Neighbor editorial asserted that no pursuit was “of more importance to the interest and prosperity of the citizens of Nauvoo” than manufacturing and bemoaned the fact that so many Nauvoo residents’ industrial skills were not being used.
7

The editorial further argued that workers were “not employed at what they ought to be. Men that have been accustomed to manufacturing cotton goods are making ditches on the prairie, woolen manufacturers are carrying the hod, and working at day labor, and silk weaver’s are mixing clay at the brickyard, iron smelters are turned farmers, and potters have got metamorphised into builders and wood choppers. . . . The prosperity of this place depends in a great measure upon the encouragement of home manufacture.” (“Home Manufacture,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 31 May 1843, [2].)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Nauvoo Neighbor. Nauvoo, IL. 1843–1845.

Though community members appealed to the church and each other for capital to induce various manufacturing projects, by October 1843 little progress had been made in industrializing the city.
8

Lydia Knight, “Manufacturing Straw,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 10 May 1843, [3]; “Important to Weavers,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 17 May 1843, [2]; Sidney Rigdon, “To the Editor of the Neighbor,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 21 June 1843, [3]; James Spratley et al., “A Word from the Suffering Boot and Shoe Makers,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 13 Sept. 1843, [3]; Letter from Jared Carter, 14 Oct. 1843. Hoping to facilitate the construction of mills, the city granted JS a charter to build a wing dam on the Mississippi River in early December 1843. (JS, Journal, 23 Nov. 1843; “An Ordinance to Erect a Dam in the Mississippi River, and for Other Purposes,” 8 Dec. 1843, JS Office Papers, CHL; see also Nauvoo City Council Minute Book, 8 Dec. 1843, 192–193.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Nauvoo Neighbor. Nauvoo, IL. 1843–1845.

At eleven o’clock in the morning on 15 October, JS addressed a group of Latter-day Saints gathered at the
grove

Before partial completion of Nauvoo temple, all large meetings were held outdoors in groves located near east and west sides of temple site. Had portable stands for speakers. JS referred to area as “temple stand” due to its location on brow of hill.

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east of the
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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temple

Located in portion of Nauvoo known as the bluff. JS revelation dated Jan. 1841 commanded Saints to build temple and hotel (Nauvoo House). Cornerstone laid, 6 Apr. 1841. Saints volunteered labor, money, and other resources for temple construction. Construction...

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construction site for approximately three hours.
9

Richards, Journal, 15 Oct. 1843.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Richards, Franklin D. Journals, 1844–1899. Richards Family Collection, 1837–1961. CHL. MS 1215, boxes 1–5.

In addition to discussing his aspirations for Nauvoo’s economy and the temporal welfare of its citizens, JS addressed a variety of other subjects, including liberty of conscience, religious creeds, the original intent of biblical authors, and his distrust of doctors and lawyers.
Willard Richards

24 June 1804–11 Mar. 1854. Teacher, lecturer, doctor, clerk, printer, editor, postmaster. Born at Hopkinton, Middlesex Co., Massachusetts. Son of Joseph Richards and Rhoda Howe. Moved to Richmond, Berkshire Co., Massachusetts, 1813; to Chatham, Columbia Co...

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, JS’s private secretary and the general church recorder, was in the audience and produced a handwritten manuscript capturing elements of JS’s discourse. Richards likely recorded rough notes of the discourse on loose paper or in a notebook before inscribing a slightly more polished account in JS’s journal.

Footnotes

  1. [1]

    Willard Richards succinctly summarized the topic of JS’s discourse as “economy of Nauvoo.” (Richards, Journal, 15 Oct. 1843.)

    Richards, Franklin D. Journals, 1844–1899. Richards Family Collection, 1837–1961. CHL. MS 1215, boxes 1–5.

  2. [2]

    Alanson Ripley, “Nauvoo,” Times and Seasons, June 1840, 1:122.

    Times and Seasons. Commerce/Nauvoo, IL. Nov. 1839–Feb. 1846.

  3. [3]

    Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 15 Dec. 1840.

  4. [4]

    Proclamation, 15 Jan. 1841.

  5. [5]

    An Act to Incorporate the Nauvoo Agricultural and Manufacturing Association, in the County of Hancock [27 Feb. 1841], Laws of the State of Illinois [1840–1841], p. 139, sec. 2.

    General Laws of the State of Illinois, Passed by the Eighteenth General Assembly, Convened January 3, 1853. Springfield: Lanphier and Walker, 1853.

  6. [6]

    Sidney Rigdon, “To the Editor of the Neighbor,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 21 June 1843, [3].

    Nauvoo Neighbor. Nauvoo, IL. 1843–1845.

  7. [7]

    The editorial further argued that workers were “not employed at what they ought to be. Men that have been accustomed to manufacturing cotton goods are making ditches on the prairie, woolen manufacturers are carrying the hod, and working at day labor, and silk weaver’s are mixing clay at the brickyard, iron smelters are turned farmers, and potters have got metamorphised into builders and wood choppers. . . . The prosperity of this place depends in a great measure upon the encouragement of home manufacture.” (“Home Manufacture,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 31 May 1843, [2].)

    Nauvoo Neighbor. Nauvoo, IL. 1843–1845.

  8. [8]

    Lydia Knight, “Manufacturing Straw,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 10 May 1843, [3]; “Important to Weavers,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 17 May 1843, [2]; Sidney Rigdon, “To the Editor of the Neighbor,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 21 June 1843, [3]; James Spratley et al., “A Word from the Suffering Boot and Shoe Makers,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 13 Sept. 1843, [3]; Letter from Jared Carter, 14 Oct. 1843. Hoping to facilitate the construction of mills, the city granted JS a charter to build a wing dam on the Mississippi River in early December 1843. (JS, Journal, 23 Nov. 1843; “An Ordinance to Erect a Dam in the Mississippi River, and for Other Purposes,” 8 Dec. 1843, JS Office Papers, CHL; see also Nauvoo City Council Minute Book, 8 Dec. 1843, 192–193.)

    Nauvoo Neighbor. Nauvoo, IL. 1843–1845.

  9. [9]

    Richards, Journal, 15 Oct. 1843.

    Richards, Franklin D. Journals, 1844–1899. Richards Family Collection, 1837–1961. CHL. MS 1215, boxes 1–5.

Asterisk (*) denotes a "featured" version, which includes an introduction and annotation. *Discourse, 15 October 1843 Journal, December 1842–June 1844; Book 3, 15 July 1843–29 February 1844 History, 1838–1856, volume E-1 [1 July 1843–30 April 1844] “History of Joseph Smith”

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for manufutuing [manufacturing]— set our women to work & stop th[e]ir spinni[n]g street yarn
10

“Spinning street yarn” was an idiomatic expression for gossiping. (“A Notion on Newspapers,” Sun [Baltimore], 19 Oct. 1843, [4]; Thornton, American Glossary, 2:866.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Sun. Baltimore. 1837–2008.

Thornton, Richard H. An American Glossary: Being an Attempt to Illustrate Certain Americanisms upon Historical Principles. 2 vols. Philadelphia: J. B. Lippincott, 1912.

and talking about spiritual wives.—
11

This term was sometimes used to describe the emerging but still secretive practice of plural marriage. JS and others married plural wives prior to this time, and although the doctrine was not taught publicly, the practice was sometimes the subject of rumors and conversations in Nauvoo. (Bennett, History of the Saints, 223, 228–229; Historical Introduction to Letter to Emma Smith and the Relief Society, 31 Mar. 1842; Historical Introduction to Discourse, 26 May 1842; Nauvoo City Council Rough Minute Book, 3 Jan. 1844, 35; Historian’s Office, General Church Minutes, 6–9 Apr. 1844, 30; Nauvoo Stake High Council, Minutes, ca. 13 Apr. 1844, JS Collection [Supplement], CHL; JS, Discourse, 26 May 1844, JS Collection, CHL; Minutes, 11 Mar. 1845; “Record of the Quorum of the Lesser Priesthood,” 19; Young, Diary and Reminiscences, 1, 4; Emily Dow Partridge Young, “Pioneer Day,” Woman’s Exponent, 1 Aug. 1883, 37; Whitney, Plural Marriage, as Taught by the Prophet Joseph, 15.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Bennett, John C. The History of the Saints; or, an Exposé of Joe Smith and Mormonism. Boston: Leland and Whiting, 1842.

Historian’s Office. General Church Minutes, 1839–1877. CHL

Smith, Joseph. Collection, 1827–1846. CHL. MS 155.

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Record of Members Collection, 1836–1970. CHL. CR 375 8.

Young, Emily Dow Partridge. Diary and Reminiscences, Feb. 1874–Nov. 1883. CHL. MS 22253.

Woman’s Exponent. Salt Lake City. 1872–1914.

Whitney, Helen Mar. Plural Marriage, as Taught by the Prophet Joseph: A Reply to Joseph Smith, Editor of the Lamoni (Iowa) “Herald.” Salt Lake City: Juvenile Instructor Office, 1882.

Send <​your mon[e]y​> out in the country. get grain cattle flax.— &c
I proclaim in the name of the Lord god. that I will have nothing but virtue & integrigrity & uprightness.—
we cannot build up a city on merchadize [merchandise]. I would not run after the mercha[n]ts. I would sow a little flax if I had but a garden and.— lot.
the temporal economy of this peop[l]es should be to establish— manufating [manufacturing] and. not to take usurry. for his mony
I do not wa[n]t to bind the poor here [p. [132]]
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Footnotes

  1. [10]

    “Spinning street yarn” was an idiomatic expression for gossiping. (“A Notion on Newspapers,” Sun [Baltimore], 19 Oct. 1843, [4]; Thornton, American Glossary, 2:866.)

    Sun. Baltimore. 1837–2008.

    Thornton, Richard H. An American Glossary: Being an Attempt to Illustrate Certain Americanisms upon Historical Principles. 2 vols. Philadelphia: J. B. Lippincott, 1912.

  2. [11]

    This term was sometimes used to describe the emerging but still secretive practice of plural marriage. JS and others married plural wives prior to this time, and although the doctrine was not taught publicly, the practice was sometimes the subject of rumors and conversations in Nauvoo. (Bennett, History of the Saints, 223, 228–229; Historical Introduction to Letter to Emma Smith and the Relief Society, 31 Mar. 1842; Historical Introduction to Discourse, 26 May 1842; Nauvoo City Council Rough Minute Book, 3 Jan. 1844, 35; Historian’s Office, General Church Minutes, 6–9 Apr. 1844, 30; Nauvoo Stake High Council, Minutes, ca. 13 Apr. 1844, JS Collection [Supplement], CHL; JS, Discourse, 26 May 1844, JS Collection, CHL; Minutes, 11 Mar. 1845; “Record of the Quorum of the Lesser Priesthood,” 19; Young, Diary and Reminiscences, 1, 4; Emily Dow Partridge Young, “Pioneer Day,” Woman’s Exponent, 1 Aug. 1883, 37; Whitney, Plural Marriage, as Taught by the Prophet Joseph, 15.)

    Bennett, John C. The History of the Saints; or, an Exposé of Joe Smith and Mormonism. Boston: Leland and Whiting, 1842.

    Historian’s Office. General Church Minutes, 1839–1877. CHL

    Smith, Joseph. Collection, 1827–1846. CHL. MS 155.

    Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Record of Members Collection, 1836–1970. CHL. CR 375 8.

    Young, Emily Dow Partridge. Diary and Reminiscences, Feb. 1874–Nov. 1883. CHL. MS 22253.

    Woman’s Exponent. Salt Lake City. 1872–1914.

    Whitney, Helen Mar. Plural Marriage, as Taught by the Prophet Joseph: A Reply to Joseph Smith, Editor of the Lamoni (Iowa) “Herald.” Salt Lake City: Juvenile Instructor Office, 1882.

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