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Discourse, 27 March 1842

Source Note

JS, Discourse, [
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Hancock Co., IL, 27 Mar. 1842]. Featured version copied [ca. 27 Mar. 1842] in Wilford Woodruff, Journal, vol. 4, 1 Jan. 1841–31 Dec. 1842, p. [139]; handwriting of
Wilford Woodruff

1 Mar. 1807–2 Sept. 1898. Farmer, miller. Born at Farmington, Hartford Co., Connecticut. Son of Aphek Woodruff and Beulah Thompson. Moved to Richland, Oswego Co., New York, 1832. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Zera Pulsipher,...

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; Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898, CHL. For more complete source information, see the source note for Discourse, 7 Nov. 1841, as Reported by Wilford Woodruff.

Historical Introduction

On 27 March 1842 JS delivered a Sabbath day discourse in
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Illinois, on the doctrine of
baptism

An ordinance in which an individual is immersed in water for the remission of sins. The Book of Mormon explained that those with necessary authority were to baptize individuals who had repented of their sins. Baptized individuals also received the gift of...

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for the dead. JS publicly introduced the doctrine that
church

The Book of Mormon related that when Christ set up his church in the Americas, “they which were baptized in the name of Jesus, were called the church of Christ.” The first name used to denote the church JS organized on 6 April 1830 was “the Church of Christ...

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members could be vicariously baptized for deceased relatives in a 15 August 1840 funeral sermon for Nauvoo
high council

A governing body of twelve high priests. The first high council was organized in Kirtland, Ohio, on 17 February 1834 “for the purpose of settling important difficulties which might arise in the church, which could not be settled by the church, or the bishop...

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member
Seymour Brunson

1 Dec. 1798–10 Aug. 1840. Farmer. Born at Plattsburg, Clinton Co., New York. Son of Reuben Brunson and Sally Clark. Served in War of 1812. Married Harriet Gould of Hector, Tompkins Co., New York, ca. 1823. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day...

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.
1

Simon Baker, “15 Aug. 1840 Minutes of Recollection of Joseph Smith’s Sermon,” JS Collection, CHL; Jane Harper Neyman and Vienna Jaques, Statement, 29 Nov. 1854, Historian’s Office, JS History Documents, ca. 1839–1860, CHL.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Smith, Joseph. Collection, 1827–1846. CHL. MS 155.

Historian’s Office. Joseph Smith History Documents, 1839–1860. CHL. CR 100 396.

Over the course of the following nineteen months, JS further explained the new doctrine—as well as the procedures for performing the
ordinance

A religious rite. JS taught that ordinances were covenants between man and God, in which believers could affirm faith, gain spiritual knowledge, and seek blessings. Some ordinances were considered requisite for salvation. The manner in which ordinances were...

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—in various letters and sermons.
2

See, for example, Minutes and Discourse, 3–5 Oct. 1840; Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 15 Dec. 1840; Revelation, 19 Jan. 1841 [D&C 124:29–32]; Minutes and Discourse, 1–5 Oct. 1841; and Discourse, 3 Oct. 1841.


The practice was performed in the
Mississippi River

Principal U.S. river running southward from Itasca Lake, Minnesota, to Gulf of Mexico. Covered 3,160-mile course, 1839 (now about 2,350 miles). Drains about 1,100,000 square miles. Steamboat travel on Mississippi very important in 1830s and 1840s for shipping...

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until a temporary font was installed in the basement of the unfinished Nauvoo
temple

Located in portion of Nauvoo known as the bluff. JS revelation dated Jan. 1841 commanded Saints to build temple and hotel (Nauvoo House). Cornerstone laid, 6 Apr. 1841. Saints volunteered labor, money, and other resources for temple construction. Construction...

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in November 1841.
3

Minutes and Discourse, 1–5 Oct. 1841; JS, Journal, 30 June 1842; Clayton, History of the Nauvoo Temple, 20–21; Woodruff, Journal, 21 Nov. 1841.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Clayton, William. History of the Nauvoo Temple, ca. 1845. CHL. MS 3365.

Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

In his 27 March 1842 discourse, JS addressed a large assembly gathered in a
grove

Before partial completion of Nauvoo temple, all large meetings were held outdoors in groves located near east and west sides of temple site. Had portable stands for speakers. JS referred to area as “temple stand” due to its location on brow of hill.

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near the construction site of the
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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temple

Located in portion of Nauvoo known as the bluff. JS revelation dated Jan. 1841 commanded Saints to build temple and hotel (Nauvoo House). Cornerstone laid, 6 Apr. 1841. Saints volunteered labor, money, and other resources for temple construction. Construction...

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. According to
Wilford Woodruff

1 Mar. 1807–2 Sept. 1898. Farmer, miller. Born at Farmington, Hartford Co., Connecticut. Son of Aphek Woodruff and Beulah Thompson. Moved to Richland, Oswego Co., New York, 1832. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Zera Pulsipher,...

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, who was in the audience when the sermon was delivered, the congregation afterward walked down to the
Mississippi River

Principal U.S. river running southward from Itasca Lake, Minnesota, to Gulf of Mexico. Covered 3,160-mile course, 1839 (now about 2,350 miles). Drains about 1,100,000 square miles. Steamboat travel on Mississippi very important in 1830s and 1840s for shipping...

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, where “Joseph the seer went into the river & Baptized all that came unto him.”
4

Woodruff, Journal, 27 Mar. 1842. JS’s journal entry of 27 March 1842, inscribed in the handwriting of Willard Richards, notes that JS baptized 107 individuals on this occasion. Though JS’s discourse reportedly focused on baptism for the dead, at least some of the baptisms JS performed that day were rebaptisms of living people, including Woodruff and John Taylor. Following the baptisms, the congregation returned to the grove, where some were confirmed by the laying on of hands. (JS, Journal, 27 Mar. 1842; Woodruff, Journal, 27 Mar. 1842.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

Woodruff recorded portions of the discourse in his journal, presumably later that day or within a few days.
5

Jonathan Grimshaw, a clerk in the Church Historian’s Office, made a copy of Woodruff’s text (adding several insertions) sometime after June 1853. Leo Hawkins later incorporated Grimshaw’s copy into the addenda of JS’s multivolume history. (Jessee, “Writing of Joseph Smith’s History,” 460; “The Following Brief Extract is from Elder Wilford Woodruff’s Journal March 27th 1842,” JS Collection, CHL; JS History, vol. C-1 Addenda, 61.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Jessee, Dean C. “The Writing of Joseph Smith’s History.” BYU Studies 11 (Summer 1971): 439–473.

Smith, Joseph. Collection, 1827–1846. CHL. MS 155.

Footnotes

  1. [1]

    Simon Baker, “15 Aug. 1840 Minutes of Recollection of Joseph Smith’s Sermon,” JS Collection, CHL; Jane Harper Neyman and Vienna Jaques, Statement, 29 Nov. 1854, Historian’s Office, JS History Documents, ca. 1839–1860, CHL.

    Smith, Joseph. Collection, 1827–1846. CHL. MS 155.

    Historian’s Office. Joseph Smith History Documents, 1839–1860. CHL. CR 100 396.

  2. [2]

    See, for example, Minutes and Discourse, 3–5 Oct. 1840; Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 15 Dec. 1840; Revelation, 19 Jan. 1841 [D&C 124:29–32]; Minutes and Discourse, 1–5 Oct. 1841; and Discourse, 3 Oct. 1841.

  3. [3]

    Minutes and Discourse, 1–5 Oct. 1841; JS, Journal, 30 June 1842; Clayton, History of the Nauvoo Temple, 20–21; Woodruff, Journal, 21 Nov. 1841.

    Clayton, William. History of the Nauvoo Temple, ca. 1845. CHL. MS 3365.

    Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

  4. [4]

    Woodruff, Journal, 27 Mar. 1842. JS’s journal entry of 27 March 1842, inscribed in the handwriting of Willard Richards, notes that JS baptized 107 individuals on this occasion. Though JS’s discourse reportedly focused on baptism for the dead, at least some of the baptisms JS performed that day were rebaptisms of living people, including Woodruff and John Taylor. Following the baptisms, the congregation returned to the grove, where some were confirmed by the laying on of hands. (JS, Journal, 27 Mar. 1842; Woodruff, Journal, 27 Mar. 1842.)

    Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

  5. [5]

    Jonathan Grimshaw, a clerk in the Church Historian’s Office, made a copy of Woodruff’s text (adding several insertions) sometime after June 1853. Leo Hawkins later incorporated Grimshaw’s copy into the addenda of JS’s multivolume history. (Jessee, “Writing of Joseph Smith’s History,” 460; “The Following Brief Extract is from Elder Wilford Woodruff’s Journal March 27th 1842,” JS Collection, CHL; JS History, vol. C-1 Addenda, 61.)

    Jessee, Dean C. “The Writing of Joseph Smith’s History.” BYU Studies 11 (Summer 1971): 439–473.

    Smith, Joseph. Collection, 1827–1846. CHL. MS 155.

Asterisk (*) denotes a "featured" version, which includes an introduction and annotation.
*Discourse, 27 March 1842
History, 1838–1856, volume C-1 Addenda “History of Joseph Smith”

Page [139]

He [
Amasa Lyman

30 Mar. 1813–4 Feb. 1877. Boatman, gunsmith, farmer. Born at Lyman, Grafton Co., New Hampshire. Son of Roswell Lyman and Martha Mason. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Lyman E. Johnson, 27 Apr. 1832. Moved to Hiram, Portage Co....

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]
1

Woodruff’s journal entry notes that Lyman “addressed the assembly & made many interesting remarks” but does not specify the topic of his sermon. (Woodruff, Journal, 27 Mar. 1842.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

was followed by Joseph the Seer who made some edifying remarks concerning
Baptism

An ordinance in which an individual is immersed in water for the remission of sins. The Book of Mormon explained that those with necessary authority were to baptize individuals who had repented of their sins. Baptized individuals also received the gift of...

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for the dead, He said the Bible supported the doctrin, “why are ye Baptized for the dead if the dead rise not &c”
2

See 1 Corinthians 15:29.


if their is one word of the Lord that supports the doctrin it is enough to mik [make] it a true doctrin
3

JS stated that his understanding of the doctrine was also partially influenced by “knowledg[e] independant of the Bible.” According to Vilate Murray Kimball, JS “received a more full explaination” of baptism for the dead “by Revelation.” (Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 15 Dec. 1840; Vilate Murray Kimball, Nauvoo, IL, to Heber C. Kimball, 11 Oct. 1840, photocopy, Vilate Murray Kimball, Letters, 1840, CHL.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Kimball, Vilate Murray. Letters, 1840. Photocopy. CHL.

Again if we can baptize a man in the Name of the Father of the Son & of the Holy Ghost
4

See Matthew 28:19; Old Testament Revision 1, p. 16 [Moses 7:11]; Book of Mormon, 1840 ed., 464 [3 Nephi 11:25]; and Articles and Covenants, ca. Apr. 1830, in Revelation Book 1, p. 57 [D&C 20:73].


for the remission of sins it is Just as much our privilege to act as an agent & be baptized for the remission of sins for & in behalf of our dead kindred who have not herd the gospel or fulness of it [p. [139]]
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Footnotes

  1. [1]

    Woodruff’s journal entry notes that Lyman “addressed the assembly & made many interesting remarks” but does not specify the topic of his sermon. (Woodruff, Journal, 27 Mar. 1842.)

    Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

  2. [2]

    See 1 Corinthians 15:29.

  3. [3]

    JS stated that his understanding of the doctrine was also partially influenced by “knowledg[e] independant of the Bible.” According to Vilate Murray Kimball, JS “received a more full explaination” of baptism for the dead “by Revelation.” (Letter to Quorum of the Twelve, 15 Dec. 1840; Vilate Murray Kimball, Nauvoo, IL, to Heber C. Kimball, 11 Oct. 1840, photocopy, Vilate Murray Kimball, Letters, 1840, CHL.)

    Kimball, Vilate Murray. Letters, 1840. Photocopy. CHL.

  4. [4]

    See Matthew 28:19; Old Testament Revision 1, p. 16 [Moses 7:11]; Book of Mormon, 1840 ed., 464 [3 Nephi 11:25]; and Articles and Covenants, ca. Apr. 1830, in Revelation Book 1, p. 57 [D&C 20:73].

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